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Rafal T. Prinke
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 Posted: Sat Jul 20th, 2013 02:19 pm
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I have just found the same graphics in Ashmole's Theatrum chemicum Britannicum on p. 256 and 373. The typeface seems definitely different from other examples listed above so it seems such graphics were circulated separately among printers.





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 Posted: Sat Jul 20th, 2013 02:51 pm
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Rafal T. Prinke wrote:
I have just found the same graphics in Ashmole's Theatrum chemicum Britannicum on p. 256 and 373. The typeface seems definitely different from other examples listed above so it seems such graphics were circulated separately among printers.







Well spotted, but...

"Even as early as incunabula decorative printer's devices occur, which were intended to fulfil a sort of trademark function as proof of authorship, copyright and quality seal..."

http://www.kettererkunst.com/dict/title-page-printers-device-colophon-publishers-device-explicit-incipit-binders-signet.shtml

This would suggest that the devices were unique to the printer and that each printer would have their own green man carved or engraved for their exclusive use, so it should be possible to trace the publisher of the Sendivogius if we can find other examples of the same design.

The Company of the Green Man have kindly put my more general enquiry on their blog:

http://thecompanyofthegreenman.wordpress.com/

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 Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2013 06:45 pm
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I have just now found both variants of this graphic used in various places in Jeronimo Osorio's five-volume work, Concionum Ioannis Osorii Societatis Iesu, printed by Jan van Keerberghen in Antwerp in 1597.  Keerberghen was using them as tailpieces.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2013 10:38 pm
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Thank you Laura! So it seems they are almost everywhere and, as Paul suggested, very detailed inspection of individual versions would be needed. Still, it is fascinating how this apparently meaningless ornament spread so widely!

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 Posted: Fri Jul 26th, 2013 11:08 pm
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Rafal T. Prinke wrote:
Thank you Laura! So it seems they are almost everywhere and, as Paul suggested, very detailed inspection of individual versions would be needed. Still, it is fascinating how this apparently meaningless ornament spread so widely!


This book may shed some light:

http://tinyurl.com/ol49gp5

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Rafal T. Prinke wrote:
Thank you Laura! So it seems they are almost everywhere and, as Paul suggested, very detailed inspection of individual versions would be needed. Still, it is fascinating how this apparently meaningless ornament spread so widely!


Also to be found throughout Paracelsus's De Vita Longa:

http://books.google.fr/books?id=SQo8AAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

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 Posted: Mon Aug 12th, 2013 05:21 pm
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At Paul Ferguson's request, I'm attaching an image from another Green Man "sighting."  This one appears as the title page vignette to Walter Montagu's Miscellanea Spiritualia, printed in London in 1648 for W. Lee, D. Pakeman, and G. Bedell.  Sorry, I was unable to reproduce our library's scan of the entire title page as the file size is too big.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 12th, 2013 05:33 pm
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More "little Green Men"!  This one appears as a tailpiece on p. [16] (first group) of v. 1 of the work I mentioned here on July 26, Osorio's Concionum Ioannis Osorii Societatis Iesu, printed in Antwerp in 1597 by Jan van Keerberghen.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 12th, 2013 05:43 pm
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And here's our mustache-ringed friend, also as a tailpiece, on p. [15] (first group) of vol. 3 of the same work by Osorio.

If anyone would like to see the bibliographic record for it, it's:
http://library.nysoclib.org/record=b1260541

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2013 06:09 pm
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And by request, two more, both from works of Tycho Brahe.  This one appears on p. 309 of his Epistolarum Astronomicarum Libri, originally printed in 1596 at Brahe's private press in Uraniborg, and reprinted by Gottfried Tampach of Frankfurt in 1610.




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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2013 06:32 pm
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This figure is in Brahe's De Mundi Aethereirecentioribus Phaenomenis, first printed in Uraniborg in 1588, in Prague (in 1603?), and by Tampach in Frankfurt in 1610.  It's on page [9] (first group; leaf **). 

As you can see, in this example there are leaves of foliage instead of mustache rings, which supports the theory that this type ornament is an aspect of Green Man imagery--though as I examine it in this enlarged version, it looks more like the face of an animal: teeth bared, whisker pads, lines apparently depicting fur below the eyes.

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Courtesy of Daniel Ronnstam, some more Green Man vignettes, with Shakespearean overtones this time. Comments?

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 Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2014 10:06 pm
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Daniel Ronnstam and Paul Lappin have now set up an Internet project to map all the occurrences of the "moustachioed" Green Man printer's ornament in published books.

Explanation here:
http://oakislandproject.com/wp/a/the-trail-of-the-green-man-investigation

Map here:
https://mapsengine.google.com/map/u/0/edit?mid=zZI9LTyGoino.kav10X6-wwsU

Spreadsheet here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ddDOWtK-Njy9mwPFcuoa7N_XwXbq1HCkhuD59sfOqX4/edit#gid=0

Facebook page here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/243831572487291/

There is also an Imgur account for the image scans (see Facebook page for link).

If you would like to contribute or get involved then please contact them via the Facebook page above or direct at info@oakislandproject.com

They are also seeking a (volunteer!) moderator for the project to input data, etc.

Please pass this message on to anyone who might be interested in participating in this project. Thank you.

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