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adammclean
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Can anyone translate this short sentence from an engraving in a work of Basil Valentine ?

[Sun] [Moon]  und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] Tagen [Saturn] muss die garne fragen Stellt [Mercury] recht dem Wind. So wirdt gefangen Fraw [Venus] Kindt.

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adammclean wrote:
Can anyone translate this short sentence from an engraving in a work of Basil Valentine ?

[Sun] [Moon]  und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] Tagen [Saturn] muss die garne fragen Stellt [Mercury] recht dem Wind. So wirdt gefangen Fraw [Venus] Kindt.


I read it as a hunting analogy, thus:

[Sun] [Moon]  und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] Jagen
[Saturn] muss die garne tragen
Stellt [Mercury] nach recht dem Windt
So wirdt gefangen Fraw [Venus] Kindt.

My very rough first effort:

The Sun, the Moon and Mars are hunting with Jupiter,
Saturn must drag the snares.
If Mercury heads straight towards the wind
So will Lady Venus's child be caught.

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The three black animals look like dogs to me, and the brown ones in the middle look like hares.  Any symbolism with that or does it just re-inforce the hunting poetry?

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Alexander Guthrie Stewart wrote:
The three black animals look like dogs to me, and the brown ones in the middle look like hares.  Any symbolism with that or does it just re-inforce the hunting poetry?

Quite a lot on the three hares motif on the web, see here:

http://www.threehares.net/

"The theory of the Ancients that the hare was hermaphroditic and could procreate without a mate led to the belief that it could give birth to young without loss of virginity." Significant in an alchemical context?

Also in Wiki, with an interesting distribution map:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_hares

And here, under 'Widecombe in the Moor'.

http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/bshm/zingaz/W.html

Radio interview with Dr. Tom Greeves:

http://cropfm.at/past_shows.htm

Interesting French blog:

http://trois-lievres.skyrock.com/

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I don't know much about late 16th/ 17th century alchemy, but I wonder if the hare symbolism would be a relic from the days when they said all you needed was mercury to make the elixir.

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Here's slighty a different translation:



Sonne] [Mond] und [Mars] mit [Jupiter] jagen]

[Saturn] muß die Garne tragen]

stellt [Merkur] recht nach dem Wind]

so wirdt gefangen Frau [Venus] Kind.]



[Sun] [Moon] and [Mars] are hunting with [Jupiter]

[Saturn] has to carry the yarns

put [Mercury] rightly to the wind

thus is caught lady [Venus] child


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