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Paul Ferguson
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 Posted: Fri Mar 6th, 2009 11:42 am
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We have now received, courtesy of the Moravian Library in Brno, the printed edition of Bonacina's treatise on potable gold which I have already translated from manuscript for Adam's MOHS series. I will now need to go through and check my transcription against the printed version.

At the beginning of Brno's copy of the printed edition are some handwritten notes. The book seems to have belonged to Ottavio Septala (or Settala), a minor member of the Milanese family that produced the cartographer Giovanni as well as Manfredo, the inventor of a 'burning mirror' and the automaton known as the 'Demonio' - click the following link and see the bottom of the relevant page: http://www.fantascienza.net/uraniandco/zaff0008.html

There is also a handwritten reference to a Johann Baptist Großschedl, who is mentioned in Priesner and Figala's Lexicon, but who I can't find much other information about.

Anyone well up on either of these two characters?

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 Posted: Sat Mar 7th, 2009 11:48 pm
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Paul Ferguson wrote:
There is also a handwritten reference to a Johann Baptist Großschedl, who is mentioned in Priesner and Figala's Lexicon, but who I can't find much other information about.

He is usually referred to as Großschedl von Aicha. He is mentioned in Schmieder's "Die Geschichte der Alchemie aller Zeiten und Völker".

Perhaps Leigh knows something about him?

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 Posted: Sun Mar 8th, 2009 01:53 pm
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His horoscope is provided in Ms Harley 3420 in the British Library,
his holograph of the Calendarium Magicum.

Natus Nobilis et Stren[uus] Vir J.B. Grossschedel ab Aicha Eq[es] Rom[anus] 1577, 5 die Febru[arii], Hora et M. 15 post Meridiem.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 8th, 2009 10:17 pm
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The VD17 catalogue lists two titles written by Joh. Baptist Großschedl:

1) Proteus Mercurialis Geminus, Exhibens Naturam Metallorum, Frankfurt 1629

2) Trifolium Hermeticum: Oder/ Hermetisches Kleeblat: I. Von der Allgemeinen Natur: II. Von der besondern/ und der Menschlichen Kunst: III. Von der verborgenen und Geheimen Weißheit, Frankfurt 1629


The Trifolium is also mentioned by Hermann Kopp in his Die Alchemie in älterer und neuerer Zeit, Teil 2, S. 338.

There are also indications that Joh. Baptist and his brother Franz Freiherr (Baron) von Großschedl were patricians from Regensburg whose Reichsadel was officially confirmed  in 1566.




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Johann Plattner wrote:
The VD17 catalogue lists two titles written by Joh. Baptist Großschedl:

1) Proteus Mercurialis Geminus, Exhibens Naturam Metallorum, Frankfurt 1629

2) Trifolium Hermeticum: Oder/ Hermetisches Kleeblat: I. Von der Allgemeinen Natur: II. Von der besondern/ und der Menschlichen Kunst: III. Von der verborgenen und Geheimen Weißheit, Frankfurt 1629


The Trifolium is also mentioned by Hermann Kopp in his Die Alchemie in älterer und neuerer Zeit, Teil 2, S. 338.

There are also indications that Joh. Baptist and his brother Franz Freiherr (Baron) von Großschedl were patricians from Regensburg whose Reichsadel was officially confirmed  in 1566.






Thanks!

There is also an MS attributed to him in the Biblioteca Palatina in Parma entitled "Zibaldone d'Alchimia" ("An Alchemical Miscellany"). I have no idea whether this is just a complilation of the above-mentioned texts or something different.

Adam tells me that the "ER" after his name stands for "Eques Romanus" ("A Roman Knight"). Was this an aristocratic title under the Holy Roman Empire (Reichsadel) or just a nickname?

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Adam tells me that the "ER" after his name stands for "Eques Romanus" ("A Roman Knight"). Was this an aristocratic title under the Holy Roman Empire (Reichsadel) or just a nickname?
I haven't found an appropriate explanation for "ER" but a good description of the considered aristocratic title might be in German "Freiherr" which is equivalent with the English "Baron".

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiherr

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