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Paul Ferguson
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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 12:26 am
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One more (rather obscure) reference:

Haberkamm, Klaus, in “Allegorical and Astrological Forms in the Works of Grimmelshausen with Special emphasis on the Prophecy Motif,” contained in Otto, Karl F., Jr., ed. A Companion to the Works of Grimmelshausen. Rochester, NY: Camden House, 2003, footnote pp. 39-40, seems to think that Grimmelshausen may have been influenced by Staricius in some of his choice of imagery.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 02:09 pm
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Leigh Penman wrote:
Thanks for the references Paul. I have seen all of them except for Schroedter's book. I'm not sure if it's a particularly reliable book, in any event!


Sorry, it is a bit of a dodgy one. I didn't look too closely :?

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 Posted: Wed Nov 19th, 2008 03:16 pm
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Leigh Penman wrote:

Of all things, I have still not been able to find a copy of his 'Newe Teutsche Weltliche Lieder' (1609) either through the vd17 or KVK. Will report back when I know more!


I know that the Chor ArtKapella from Schkeuditz have performed some of his songs at concerts, so there must be a performing edition.

art-Kapella Schkeuditz e.V.
Teichstr. 07
04435 Schkeuditz

http://www.artkapella.de/

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 Posted: Thu Nov 27th, 2008 12:54 am
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ok, I have received and read Moeller's book. It is an interesting little text, with some perceptive commentaries on various unusual aspects of early-modern life (one digression concerning the matriculation records of the UNiversity of Leipzig turned out to be especially useful for me, albeit in a very different context.)

I am not sure if this is the place for a (very brief) review, but I will just state that I think it unfortunate that Moeller concentrated on the 'episodic' nature of the narrative. While this reflects Staricius frustratingly enigmatic entries and exits into recorded history,  the author was unwilling to really attempt to link Staricius to broader movements or ideas. In addition to musical interests, Staricius also authored a couple of purely political tracts, which cried out for more attention. While some speculation is of course necessary to do so (which is probably what Moeller was trying to avoid), I get the sense that at the end of the day there was little of interest presented in this work for people not specifically concerned with Staricius himself.

Anyway, it was a good little read.

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 Posted: Fri Nov 28th, 2008 10:41 am
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A couple more musical references, just in case you don't have them:

Vetter, Walther
Das Frühdeutsche Lied : Ausgewahlte Kapitel aus der Entwicklungsgeschichte und Aesthetik des Ein- und Mehrstimmigen Deutschen Kunstliedes, Erstes Band
Von Walther Vetter
Emsdetten, Westf.: Verlage Lechte, 1928, 350 p.

Gerber, Ernst Ludwig
Neues historischbiographisches Lexikon der Tonkunstler, welches Nachrichten von dem Leben und den Werken musikalischer Schriftsteller, berühmter Componisten, Sunger, Maister auf Instrumenten, Orgel- und Instrumentenmacher etc. aus allen Nationen enthalt ...
4 Bde.
Leipzig: 1812-14

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 Posted: Fri Nov 28th, 2008 09:41 pm
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Actually, the music thing is interesting on Staricius' part.

Having read Moeller's book, I am still not sure if his songbook of 1609 still exists. However, later, in the early 1620s, he propduced several editions of the same collection of verse-form poems, which could be sung according to the tune of various hymns, etc.

His Newe Teutsche Liede was probably a plagiarism of others' work. However, the books from the 1620s comprise of lyrics written by Staricius. Several copies of these works indeed survive, although there is not the slightest 'alchemical' element to them.

 

Staricius' case has thrown this stuff about "alchemical music", "musical alchemists" and "alchemy and music" in  a curious light. I will write a more indepth post on this matter shortly...

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Dear Leigh,

You will find a full set of four partbooks (soprano, alto, tenor, bass) for Staricius' Newer Teutscher Weltlicher Lieder : nach Art der Welschen Madrigalen ; neben etlichen lieblichen Teutschen Täntzen, sobol in lebendiger Stimmen als auff allerhand Musicalischen Instrumenten und Seytenspielen gantz lieblich zugebrauchen mit fuenff und vier Stimmen (Frankfurt: Steinius, 1609) in the Niedersächsische Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek in Göttingen under the shelfmark MUS.003.002.004 Saec. XVII. I expect that any dedicatory, explanatory or subsidiary texts will be in the tenor partbook. (The library also has a stack of other material by Staricius.) It will be interesting to see how much of the music he actually wrote...

Grantley

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 Posted: Wed Dec 10th, 2008 12:43 am
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Grantley McDonald wrote:
Dear Leigh,

You will find a full set of four partbooks (soprano, alto, tenor, bass) for Staricius' Newer Teutscher Weltlicher Lieder : nach Art der Welschen Madrigalen ; neben etlichen lieblichen Teutschen Täntzen, sobol in lebendiger Stimmen als auff allerhand Musicalischen Instrumenten und Seytenspielen gantz lieblich zugebrauchen mit fuenff und vier Stimmen (Frankfurt: Steinius, 1609) in the Niedersächsische Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek in Göttingen under the shelfmark MUS.003.002.004 Saec. XVII. I expect that any dedicatory, explanatory or subsidiary texts will be in the tenor partbook. (The library also has a stack of other material by Staricius.) It will be interesting to see how much of the music he actually wrote...

Grantley



Great find! Here is a URL:

http://opac.sub.uni-goettingen.de/DB=1/SET=1/TTL=1/START_WELCOME

A search for "Staricius" gives 20 hits. Items 16-20 are the Lieder.


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