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J.Yves Artero
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 Posted: Thu Apr 10th, 2008 09:17 pm
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Hi

Here it is:

Brüning, Volker Fritz: Bibliographie der alchemistischen Literatur. Band 1 - 3. [so komplett!]

Band 1: Die alchemistischen Druckwerke von der Erfindung der Buchdruckerkunst bis zum Jahre 1690.

Band 2: Die alchemistischen Druckwerke von 1691 bis 1783.

Band 3: Die alchemistischen Druckwerke von 1784 bis 2004. Register. Nachträge.

München: K.G. Saur, 2004 - 2007. ca. 1500 S., 30.3 cm, Pappbände (gebunden).


Best. Nr. 25554]550,00 Euro
- Sehr guter Zustand.

The present seller I just saw is:


Antiquariat Uwe Theodor Bechtold
Bodelschwinghstraße 49
75179 Pforzheim
Deutschland
Tel.: 07231 442504
E-Post: utbechtold@t-online.de]
Netz: http://www.esoterikbook.de
Umsatzsteuer-ID-Nummer: DE 185598205
Steuer-Nr.: 41012 / 44122 (FA Pforzheim)


Extremely "teuer", isn't it?

Best,

J.Yves

 

 

 

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Johann Plattner
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 Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 04:01 pm
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At the following website you will find a kind of flyer of Brüning's  bibliography (Bibliographie der alchemistischen Literatur) mentioned by Jean. Actually the price for the new volumes is significantly higher, viz. 744 Euro. Some time ago I came across a short review of this work, however this wasn't positive at all.

http://www.produkte24.com/cy/k-g-saur-1221/bibliographie-der-alchemistischen-literatur-3391/seite-1-gross.html

There you should also click on the link "Extrahierter Text anzeigen".

Johann Plattner

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 Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 04:24 pm
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It was referred to in the Alchemy Academy:

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/a-archive_sep04.html

but the link is currently dead,

Paul

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 Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 04:45 pm
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There is a fairly lengthy formal review in the journal Bibliothek 29(2) 2005, pp. 248-251 (available at http://www.bibliothek-saur.de/2005_2/245-267.pdf)

Not a very good review - it  boils down to "full of errors, not a serious work, not of the expected standard" and justifies the criticisms in detail.

I have seen the bibliography and am not impressed for various reasons. I'll not go into detail, but the funniest entry is for the Roger Bacon item held at the Miskatonic University (if you don't get the joke see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miskatonic_University0

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 Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 08:29 am
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There is surely no way of creating such a bibliography without visiting the actual libraries and seeing the books. As far as I understand Bruning worked mostly from published library catalogues, so he was relying on the accuracy of the descriptions in these entries. As these were often made in the 19th century, there are errors and a lack of modern standard bibliographical description.

Here in Glasgow we have two collections  the Ferguson In the University of Glasgow Library and the Young in Strathclyde University Library (only 20 minutes apart). If you put both these collections together you will find that they cover over 90% of all pre-1800 printed books on the subject of alchemy. Anyone making a bibliography of alchemy would just come to Glasgow and spend six months going through the books, then fill in the missing items by visits to the British Library, the Bibliotheque Nationale and one of the major German  and Italian Libraries. As far as I know Bruning did not visit Glasgow. He seems just to have made a cut and paste job from library catalogues. He does not even seem to have a coherent methodology for identifying what he accepts as a book on the subject of alchemy.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 13th, 2008 11:33 am
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Alan Pritchard wrote:
There is a fairly lengthy formal review in the journal Bibliothek 29(2) 2005, pp. 248-251 (available at http://www.bibliothek-saur.de/2005_2/245-267.pdf)

Not a very good review - it  boils down to "full of errors, not a serious work, not of the expected standard" and justifies the criticisms in detail.

I have seen the bibliography and am not impressed for various reasons. I'll not go into detail, but the funniest entry is for the Roger Bacon item held at the Miskatonic University (if you don't get the joke see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miskatonic_University0



Hi Alan,

Sorry to be pedantic, but the correct links are:

http://www.bibliothek-saur.de/2005_2/245-267.pdf

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miskatonic_University


Paul

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Thank you, Paul. Never apologise for being pedantic - especially in matters bibliographical <g>

I have now received a summary of the review. I won't post it in full (unless requested),  but some of the salient points are:

"There is no index of authors or sources. For historians who are used to researching source material from such indices, this book will seem more like a book with seven seals than a bibliography which seeks to help introduce the huge amount of alchemical literature from the period as quickly as possible: A chronological arrangement of source material can be useful in personal bibliographies or in bibliographies which are limited to narrow areas like particular substances, or events like comets – but not when dealing with a complex cultural phenomenon such as alchemy"
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Finally, the road to completeness could be paved with alchemical texts whose existence Brüning often refers to but never provides proof of, and with many other texts not even mentioned"
"[Entries] are almost always characterised by inadequate knowledge of relevant research and stupendous innocence regarding unbiased sources. The reviewer says that even basic things like biographical details, contain grave errors and he cites fourteen examples of mistaken identity"
"[The bibliography]  puts one in mind of a telephone directory where one can be certain that a large proportion of the numbers have at least one wrong digit.”


I must say that I am fully in agreement with Adam's remarks about visiting libraries, and IMO it is essential to indicate for the user which material has been seen and which has been taken from a secondary source.

Alan


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